Pla-Mor - wiring in a free play ‘ coin bypass switch

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- 7 December 2020 at 20 h 32 min #48058
  
  simong_uk
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  Hi
  
  please can someone help with instructions on wiring a free-play switch into a Packard Pla-Mor ?
  
  The instructions include a photo showing the ability to do this, but the photos not very clear and its not mentioned in the instruction text.
  
  Has anyone wired a switch to operate off the coin reject button ?
  
  many thanks
- 7 December 2020 at 23 h 25 min #48059
  
  Klaatu
  Keymaster
  
  I’ve used the original coin switch, and moved it next to the coin reject button.
- 8 December 2020 at 8 h 42 min #48060
  
  Randy
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  May help to post a picture of which coin switch you have. There are a few different switches for the Pla-Mor for different models, from brass leaf contacts to micros. But a simple momentary switch wired to each terminal of the current switch should do it. Or jump those terminals.
- 8 December 2020 at 21 h 43 min #48063
  simong_uk
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  Thanks guys
  
  here’s a photo of my unit.
  
  I’ve been told that the coin switch is on the right hand side by the fuse, but the coin doesn’t seem to go anywhere near this but seems to drop pretty centrally.
  
  if this is the switch, how would I move this as its seems pretty embedded and not easy to access ?
  
  Thanks again
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- 9 December 2020 at 2 h 46 min #48068
  
  Randy
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  OK – so you have one of the older boxes with a leaf switch stack rather than the micro switch. Personally I like to keep the coin system in place but if you want to avoid coins you could wire a momentary switch to the two tabs on the switch stack then whenever you push the button it provides a credit. Or you could just bend the two switch leaves so that they are always in contact either way would likely require some disassembly. I’ve attached a couple pics to show it better. By chance I have a similar unit disassembled.
  
  Randy
- 9 December 2020 at 6 h 57 min #48070
  
  Randy
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  Hey Simong, disregard the option of bending the leaves so they stay in contact. I’ve seen this done on pinball machines to get free play but had forgotten to consider that pinballs have a built in momentary switches in the next game/start play buttons. I like Klaatu’s suggestion to use the coin return button to trigger the credit switch but I’m guessing that requires significant disassembly.
  
  Randy
- 9 December 2020 at 13 h 53 min #48071
  
  simong_uk
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  Thanks guys – really appreciate the help 😊👍
- 10 December 2020 at 21 h 49 min #48085
  
  Klaatu
  Keymaster
  
  Service Manual PLA-MOR 22 pages, thanks to Randy : http://www.wallbox2mp3.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Packard_Pla-Mor_ServiceManual.pdf
- 10 December 2020 at 22 h 15 min #48086
  
  Randy
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  Klaatu, did you get the other one as well, it was the zipped one. It has a little more detail in it.
  
  Randy
- 10 December 2020 at 22 h 46 min #48087
  
  Klaatu
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  Both pdf in zip fle, or by email are the same, same size, same page number.
- 10 December 2020 at 23 h 16 min #48088
  
  Randy
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  OK – I goofed, just sent you another by email.
  
  Randy
- 10 December 2020 at 23 h 35 min #48090
  
  Klaatu
  Keymaster
  
  OK, that’s the one from the FB group 😉
  http://www.wallbox2mp3.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Packard-Pla-Mor-24-pages.pdf
- 11 December 2020 at 0 h 13 min #48096
  
  simong_uk
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  👍😀
- 11 December 2020 at 6 h 07 min #48097
  
  Randy
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  Well, at least it’s available to the folks here who are not on the FB group. Can you get them posted in the support section?
  
  Randy
- 12 December 2020 at 13 h 10 min #48100
  
  simong_uk
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  Unrelated question, but does anyone know where the serial number is located on these boxes and if it’s possible to date the year of manufacture ?
  
  There’s a hard to red number stamped on the top of the box, but I was expecting there to be a plate somewhere confirming model etc
  
  thanks again 😊
- 12 December 2020 at 20 h 50 min #48103
  
  Randy
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  The serial number should be on the data plate inside the box on the upper left hand of the back plate. My SC-2 is #162712. Not so easy to date the year of manufacture although this site claims 1962-65 for the SC-1 then states a production run of around 13ok for “SC series”
  
  https://www.jukeboxhistory.info/seeburg/wallboxes.html#sc-1
  
  Randy
- 12 December 2020 at 21 h 06 min #48104
  
  Randy
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  Whoops, wrong forum topic. For the Play-mor the serial # was noted on a card pasted on the outside back of the backplate. Given that you are not likely to find them intact any more. Here is a picture of one of mine. The link to history is: looks like 40-49 at about 120k.
  
  https://www.jukeboxhistory.info/packard/wallboxes.html
- 13 December 2020 at 20 h 53 min #48107
  
  simong_uk
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  Unfortunately, that label appears to be missing from my unit.
  
  there is what looks like a date stamped into the top of the unit next to the coin slot, it’s a 6 digit number ending ‘41’, so could that be the date ?
- 13 December 2020 at 22 h 19 min #48108
  
  Randy
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  Ahh, I missed that on mine, that number is the serial #, on mine it matches what is on the card. Not sure how you would be able to figure out the date on manufacture from it though.
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