Wurlitzer 5220 : comment passer en free-play ?

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  • #46632

    mic
    Participant

    Bonjour,

    Je suis en possession d’une Wallbox Wurlitzer 5220A . J’ai installé ma carte wallbox2mp3, mais malheureusement malgré mes très nombreuses recherches je n’arrive pas à trouver comment passer en crédit gratuit sur cette machine pour pouvoir profiter de ma musique.

    Pourriez vous m’indiquer la marche à suivre ?

    Merci d’avance

    Mic.

    • This topic was modified 8 months ago by  Klaatu.
    #46633

    scudie
    Participant

    Bonjour Mic

    Unfortunately my French is very poor, so you will have to translate this.

    I have had no experience with the 5220 wallbox, & this is purely a guess.

    On the 5210 &5250 the credit units are situated in the lower right corner and are predominantly a mechanical system that operates a small electrical switch.

    The credit unit either opens or closes the contacts of the switch when there are credits available. To give free plays the switch could be bypassed so the action of the credit unit has no affect on the switch. As I said this is purely based on my guess that Wurliter carried on using a similar credit system on the 5220.

    Do you have a Manual for the 5220?

    Unfortunately there isn’t one on the Support section of this site.

    Cheers Scudie

     

     

    #46642

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    Manuel en ligne dans SUPPORT.

    Thanks to Paul North.

    #46643

    scudie
    Participant

    Hi MIC

    Since posting my first reply to your question I have been able to source a manual for the 5220, which has now been added to the support section here on this site.

    After looking at the manual it is obvious to me that I had assumed incorrectly & that the credit unit is not the same as a 5250, however it would appear that if you were to to fit a simple switch across the Key switch that is shown in the manual, & is  labelled on the photos of the play rack. Wurlitzer call the credit unit a play rack.

    Cheers Scudie

    #46649

    mic
    Participant

    Thanks a lot for your help. The documents will be of great help.

    Mic

    #46651

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    Il faudrait faire une photo du “playrak”, mais visiblement, il y a une roue crantée qui sert à décrémenter les crédits.

    Il doit donc y avoir un “doigt” qui pousse la roue pour enlever le crédit. C’est ce mécanisme qu’il faut bloquer, démonter, couper… suivant comment c’est fait.

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 4 weeks ago by  Klaatu.
    #46653

    scudie
    Participant

    Hope the Manual helps. Let us know how you get on.

    Cheers Scudie

    #46661

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    If you succeed to convert it to free-play take some photos and let us know.

    Could be useful to others.

    Thanks

    #46977

    Guillaume
    Participant

    Hello to all,

    i have the same problem with my own Wurlitzer 5220, did you fix the problem (free play configuration)? If yes could you send me some pictures and information to explain how to do it ?

    many thanks !

    Guillaume

    #46978

    scudie
    Participant

    Hi Guillaume

    Welcome to the forum,

    what is the problem that you have?

    what exactly are you trying to achieve ?

    have you looked at the manual for the 5220?

    Cheers Scudie

    #46979

    Guillaume
    Participant

    Dear Scudie,

    many thanks for your message, in fact the situation is the following : I have installed a wallbox2mp3 into my Wurlitzer 5220 , the cabling seems ok , and there is no error message (no flash red LED) everything seems ok also with the SDCard.

    I have removed the cash system and put a bridge on the J101 as indicated in some forum , but I am not really sure that my bridge is fine ( 2nd row and between 2&3)..

    when I make a selection, the wheel turn (only 1 full turn)) and stop exactly at the same place , and no music run ( no signal on the wallbox2mp3)

    So my concern is about the wallbox and not necessary the wallbox2mp3 (for the moment..) and I would like know if my free play bridge is fine, and if there is other thing to check on the wallbox ( wheel system, cabling ,….)

    many thanks for your help !

    kind regards
    Guillaume

    #46980

    scudie
    Participant

    Hello Guillaum

    As I mentioned in a previous post I do not own a 5220 or 5225 so I have no experience with them, but I will try my best to help you as much as I can.

    This bridge you have installed on J101, what is J101? Is there any pictures of this in the manual.

    You say 2nd row between 2& 3  please explain 2nd row of what ?

    Cheers Scudie

    #46981

    Guillaume
    Participant

    Herewith a picture  of the bridge :


    As you can see there are 4 rows on the j101 the bridge is between the 2 nd and 3rd position on the 2nd row.

    i have seen in some forum that bridge position would permit to by pass the credit system.

     

     

    #46982

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    No photo 🙁

    #46983

    Guillaume
    Participant

     

    #46984

    Guillaume
    Participant

    #46985

    Guillaume
    Participant

    Sorry some issue to attached the pictures… 😕

    #46986

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    Don’t have a 5220, but your bridge is done the way it is pointed in a french forum.
    Did you clean all contacts in the wallbox ?
    You get the right voltage out of the transformer ?

    #46987

    Guillaume
    Participant

    thanks for your message,

    regarding the voltage I checked and I have a little bit more than 24vAC out of the transformer.

    the contacts have been cleaned but maybe there are some contacts that I have forgotten. I will check again.

    that is strange is about the selection  wheel which turn And stop systematically  at the same place . I thought that the wheel should stop according the selection…

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Klaatu.
    #46988

    Klaatu
    Moderator

    Have you adjusted “Selector Switch Latch” as per instructions manual on page 6 ?

    http://www.wallbox2mp3.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/W-5220-Service-Manual.pdf

    Latch will make a full turn for each selection.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Klaatu.
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